Oct 26, 2006, 07:02 AM // 07:02
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#1
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: California, USA
Guild: Angel Sharks [AS] (RiP [KaiZ] T__T")
Profession: Mo/E
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The END to Farming Melee based monsters...
... as we know it.
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*Monsters no longer run from AoE damage when they are very healthy, or when they think they’re very close to killing their opponent.
*Melee monsters are more intelligent about keeping themselves spread out, so that they don’t put themselves into a position where they’re highly susceptible to AoE attacks.
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Minotaurs, Nope.
Trolls, Nope.
Vermin, Nope.
Undergrowths, Nope.
Kirins, Nope.
ANY MELEE TYPE MONSTER, Nope.
Mebe the current affects are unintentional, but as it stands, they recognize low health on themselves, and run in attempt to heal... Funny how mindless beasts of the wild get so instinctual... lol!!
Farming bosses, still possible, just not the melee type ones.
As far as farming builds, we are now going to have to get MUCH more creative as the typical "hit me until you kill yourself" method is beyond nerfed, just plain destroyed.
So where do we go from here? If i go out and get a new sets of 15k armor for my new Paragon and Dervish, how am i going to remake that cash, build my savings back up, and have enough to buy 100's of new skills?
PvE, has just GREATLY changed just like the first big AoE update.
PvE commerce has just GREATLY changed.
Trade values will GREATLY change.
New salvage methods, item modifers, armor modifiers, and interface has just GREATLY changed the game's core game dynamics.
Guild Wars has just GREATLY changed. GL to yall, head up and keep hope! cheers!
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Oct 26, 2006, 07:08 AM // 07:08
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#2
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Grind is subjective
Guild: learn this please
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Originally Posted by Batou of Nine
Vermin, Nope.
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False.
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Oct 26, 2006, 07:09 AM // 07:09
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#3
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2005
Profession: N/Mo
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sad batou sad, oh well, since it's gonna be harder to make up cash now, I think it's time you really donate to me, =), guild buddy.
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Oct 26, 2006, 07:13 AM // 07:13
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#4
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]
Profession: W/
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At least Spider farming seems to be intact.
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Oct 26, 2006, 07:51 AM // 07:51
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#5
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Bad Romance
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Grand Matron
Profession: Mo/
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You can still farm Mino's at least, I was 55ing with my monk today. Just use SS instead of SoJ, and don't aggo more than 4 at a time. They run if there are more than 4 in your bubble taking damage. It's slower, but still possible.
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Oct 26, 2006, 07:56 AM // 07:56
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#6
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has 3 pips of HP regen.
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: The Objective Is More [Cash]
Profession: W/
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The AI is still very predictable and exploitable. I'm currently trying to formulate something effective, but the basic jist is: If you pummel them with AOE early, then you're only gonna be facing 3 or so at a time for the rest of the fight. It is much easier to stay alive under that kind of pressure than staying alive while you're getting smacked around by 12 of them, and consequently, doesn't neccessitate as much reliance on pure invincibility.
Give it time. The AI is too dumb and there are too many skill possibilities for melee farming to get killed this easily. At the very least, there could be some very effective duo teams in the near future. I also hear using SS to kill things off works as well as ever.
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Oct 26, 2006, 08:03 AM // 08:03
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#7
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: May 2006
Location: England
Guild: Farming Crew Nl [FCNL]
Profession: Mo/
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You can still venguful Farm
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Oct 26, 2006, 09:37 AM // 09:37
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#8
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Norway, Oslo
Guild: Glob of Ectospasm
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tried UW, all aataxes ran away and they killed my SS companion :P
how will i ever get my fow armor now
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Oct 26, 2006, 09:42 AM // 09:42
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#9
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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This update is the biggest rubbish ever. They wanted to close down the botters and money making companies, well they succeeded. They succeeded in spoiling our fun too, gg. I wonder how people are supposed to get their FoW armors now? High end trading = impossible (inscriptions), farming = impossible. Oh wait, I am being dumb. They'll nerf it down to 5ecto per piece..
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Oct 26, 2006, 09:47 AM // 09:47
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#10
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Academy Page
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Stockholm Sweden
Guild: LF HA Guild
Profession: Mo/
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Spirit Bond is also NEFT SO HARD
Spirit Bond: expires after 10 attacks or Spells.
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Oct 26, 2006, 09:53 AM // 09:53
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#11
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The Netherlands
Profession: W/Mo
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vermin farming is nerved to.
When u attack them they all run away and stay away for like 7 sec.
its still possible to do it but it takes mutch more time then before.
i stoped with it.
gonna play CoD 2 now
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Oct 26, 2006, 09:54 AM // 09:54
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#12
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Norway, Oslo
Guild: Glob of Ectospasm
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yep spirit bond too ;_;
They should NERF obsidian armor too then <<
This patch ruined my fun in the game =="
Edit: TRAPPERTEAMS FTW
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Oct 26, 2006, 09:58 AM // 09:58
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#13
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jun 2006
Profession: W/
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will the decreased amount of peopel farming uw increse the cost of ectos becuase if so im stackign up
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Oct 26, 2006, 10:11 AM // 10:11
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#14
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2006
Profession: R/
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You have got to be kidding me...
I've seen a LOT of bad nerfs, but this is a bit far. How the hell are you suppossed to get FoW armor when you can't farm anything without an 8-man pug that more than likely is gonna die gruesomely before you reach the smites?
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Oct 26, 2006, 10:11 AM // 10:11
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#15
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: The Medicine Cabinet [PILL]
Profession: E/
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Caster enemies run like crazy from my warrior also. Kinda sucks.
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Oct 26, 2006, 10:14 AM // 10:14
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#16
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2006
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carbajac
Caster enemies run like crazy from my warrior also. Kinda sucks.
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Looks like fow solo is pretty much all we can still do atm. That and (according to an above poster) VwK farming.
...rt/me ftw?
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Oct 26, 2006, 10:15 AM // 10:15
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#17
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D]
Guild: Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]
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Lol any other build then Spirit Bond still works... sounds like I can finally sell 2 armors, because they became useless... But I'll always have my 55 armor. Neway melee characters arent the only ones that can be farmed...
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Oct 26, 2006, 10:18 AM // 10:18
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#18
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2006
Profession: R/
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/agree
Just that meleers were the easiest. FoW forest is still fine afaik.
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Oct 26, 2006, 10:44 AM // 10:44
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#19
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2006
Profession: R/
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You know, you could sue with a good lawyer... Taking fees for a product and then altering its contents after the deal could be considered almost fraudulent.
City of Heroes/City of Villains did the exact same thing...I'm going to need to remember to stop buying things from anyone associated with ncsoft.
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Oct 26, 2006, 11:14 AM // 11:14
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#20
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Frost Gate Guardian
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the dev's still fail to realise that a majority of people playing their game are absolutely not intersted in pvp and have therefore absolutely nothing to do end game but contribute to the pve economy.
i guess they simply don't want our money. i certainly won't give them my USD50 for NF. seriously, USD50 for NF is stupid when i won't have any end game content to entertain myself with until chapter 4 comes out. i just rerolled my ranger and in one month finished both prophesies and tyria with protector's titles. what am i supposed to do after i complete the 20 elonian missions? twiddle my thumbs and turn pink?
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